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Old 19th August 2017, 09:52 AM
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At first glance it looks exactly what it seems to be: President Donald Trump's arts and humanities committee resigning en masse to protest his controversial stance on white supremacist violence in the US.

But if you cast an eye down the left side of the document, at the first letter of the first word of each paragraph, they spell a single word: RESIST.

It's an unsurprising gesture, perhaps, but the sort of thing that conspiracy theories thrive on.

What the White House will make of it, if anything, remains to be seen.

The letter, dated Friday, US time, and signed by 16 of the 17 committee members, criticised the "false equivalence" of the President's comments on the recent violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

In remarks which have drawn criticism from the entire political spectrum, Trump laid the blame for the violence on "many sides" and referred to "good people" who were among the white supremacist marchers.

"Ignoring your hateful rhetoric would have made us complicit in your words and actions," the committee said in the letter.

"Supremacy, discrimination, and vitriol are not American values; your values are not American values," they added.

"We must be better than this. We are better than this. If this is not clear to you, then we call on you to resign your office, too."

The letter also issued a stinging rebuke to the broader policy positions of Trump's presidency.

"You released a budget which eliminates arts and culture agencies [and] you have threatened nuclear war while gutting diplomacy funding," the letter said.

It also made reference to the US withdrawal from the Paris agreement, the undermining of the Civil Rights Act and Trump's "attack" on transgender people serving in the military.

"This does not unify the nation we all love," the letter said.
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Old 19th August 2017, 11:03 AM
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2 biz councils gone. infra panel disbanded, arts council resigned. but who is left standing?

Trump's evangelical panel remains intact as others disband. Who are his religious cheerleaders?



https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...harlottesville


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Donald Trump was forced to disband two business advisory councils and an infrastructure panel after some of America’s most prominent business leaders fled their posts, protesting against Trump’s statements appeasing white nationalist marchers at the weekend rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
But the president’s religious evangelical advisory board, a mix of radical born-again preachers, televangelists and conservative political influencers, still stands almost intact. Not only have members avoided criticism of the president, while occasionally scolding the violence in general – some have been openly supportive of Trump’s statements assigning blame “on many sides” and slamming those who turned up to oppose the militant neo-Nazis.

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Intriguing how many evangelicals & fundamentalists willing to make a deal with their devil to get done what they decide their god wants done
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Old 19th August 2017, 11:21 AM
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@SK That's concerning for sure, although to what extent these panels have any impact on Trump is a mystery given his famously short concentration span.

From the Atlantic,

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Bannon's Exit Leaves Trump Untethered
As the president cuts ties with establishment staffers, and forces out his populist firebrand, what’s left of Trumpism other than white identity politics?

It is the latest in a string of senior departures from a White House that—like the Republican Party itself—was split between establishment Republicans and populist outsiders. But Bannon’s exit, following on the heels of those other departures, leaves Trump largely untethered from the Republican Party—and the president’s ideology, never especially defined on most issues, even more up for grabs.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...thered/537354/

Now, it's possible Trump will embrace some beefed up christian persona but somehow i just don't think he will. I think it's too complicated for him. I'd wager, he'll swing further to identity politics because it's easier. But why did he sack Bannon then?

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Bannon clashed fiercely with the establishment wing under Priebus, but also with Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and a senior adviser. Perhaps most unforgivably in Trump’s eyes, he got a great deal of credit for the administration’s moves, including an unforgettable Saturday Night Live sketch in which Bannon, as the Grim Reaper, infantilized the president.
So, Bannon was getting too much credit...Trump was jealous.
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Old 19th August 2017, 01:56 PM
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@SK That's concerning for sure, although to what extent these panels have any impact on Trump is a mystery given his famously short concentration span.
I would argue that precisely because of his short concentration span, this is a concern. he has already - for instance - watered down the Johnson amendment, but more broadly, I don't think anything this panel comes up with will be a sophisticated policy requiring careful consideration and effective execution. it's not like this is a subtle group. they want to ram their religion down everybody's throat and their approach is not one of compromise or considering the grey areas. very black and white. so quite possible it will be specific, narrowly focused 'suggestions' they will bring up. e.g. 'nominate X for a court position' or 'issue exec order that bans XYZ'.

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Now, it's possible Trump will embrace some beefed up christian persona but somehow i just don't think he will. I think it's too complicated for him. I'd wager, he'll swing further to identity politics because it's easier. But why did he sack Bannon then?

So, Bannon was getting too much credit...Trump was jealous.
I don't think he will. I doubt he will suddenly develop a religious personality. it's more what I said above. specific actions aimed at ensuring the continued support of evangelicals.

I think jealousy had something do with it. as was his interview where he contradicted Trump on NK. as was the fact that Kelly probably did not like him.
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while Alex Jones and his ilk are talking about 'the deep state', guess who is acting like one?

Scott Pruitt Is Carrying Out His E.P.A. Agenda in Secret, Critics Say



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/u...ruitt-epa.html


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1) EPA employees now need an escort to reach his office on the top floor.
2) Senior staff give verbal orders on major policy decisions as not to create a paper trail.
3) Employees are often asked not to take notes during meetings and leave their cellphones at the door.
4) Pruitt avoids making calls on his office phone.
5) His schedule has been removed from the EPA's website.
6) He has requested 24/7 armed guards, unprecedented for an administrator.
7) Congressional oversight inquiries have gone unanswered.
8) Requests for public information have been delayed.
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