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Old 19th November 2017, 07:24 AM
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The funny thing about the assertion that intelligence is required to beget intelligence is that it leads one straight into the kind of infinite regress that makes apologists' heads explode, and for which the entire class of 'prime mover' arguments were erected to defeat.

This is among the worst of the cognitive dissonances faced by apologists who erect asinine arguments without understanding them.

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They try and get around it by asserting that there is an uncreated creator. Which of course runs them straight into another brick wall. They tend to think that they can do some sort of magic hand wave to make all of their claims work.
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Old 19th November 2017, 07:55 AM
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Indeed. It's classic special pleading. If the intelligent creator is uncreated, the intelligence isn't required to beget intelligence. It's turtles all the way down.
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indeed .... all life derives from a source of intelligence
Can you please substantiate this bollocks.
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indeed .... all life derives from a source of intelligence
Can you please substantiate this bollocks.
Rkd, I am not sure if User Dadmansabode is off his ban yet.

But, yep, you sure called it as bollocks.
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Old 21st December 2017, 10:03 PM
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Well only because I had to do some emergency plumbing of the totally rusted GI pipe form today and it occurred to me that the stuff in the mud was totally okay with the mud yet I had some affinity to a civilised warm shower. To my way of thinking the things in the mud had no idea why I would toil to restore plumbing at the expense of replication. Yet replicating a shower seemed more beneficial to my lowly existence. Just saying.
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