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Sydney 2000: Not Very Vaxxy

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Sydney's 2000 postcode has the worst childhood vaccination rate in the country, national data reveals.

A deep dive into vaccination rates by suburb shows vast disparities between neighbouring communities and some alarmingly low vaccination rates in Sydney and NSW.

Just 70.5 per cent of five year old children were fully vaccinated in the area encompassing the Sydney CBD, Millers Point, Haymarket, Dawes Point, The Rocks, shows 2015-2015 immunisation data released Thursday.

More than one in four children (122) in this age group living in this area have not received all the vaccinations listed on the National Immunisation Program Schedule, found the Healthy Communities report.
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Bit of an issue with the linky I think Mr Black.
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Bit of an issue with the linky I think Mr Black.
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It's weird (or maybe not) that this blindness seems to effect the educated middle classes. On a study of one person I know of I'm not sure what the answer is. They have immersed themselves so deep in all the dubious information from non-experts, like the deeply religious, they'll do any amount of mental gymnastics to carry on believing they're right.
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ACT: Sneaky Screening of "Vaxxed" Film, Wakefield To Attend. - Fairfax linky

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The Australian Vaccination Skeptics Network is planning a screening of the controversial film Vaxxed at a secret location in Canberra this month.

The documentary film is directed by Andrew Wakefield, a former doctor whose debunked study was central to the anti-vaccination movement.

The controversial 1998 research paper focused on a link between measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism was published and then later retracted by the medical journal Lancet.

It was axed from several events both internationally and in Australia, including the New York based Tribeca Film Festival and Victoria's Castlemaine Local and International Film Festival (CLIFF) in 2016.

Screenings worldwide have sparked debate about whether it is right to give a platform to something that has the capacity to affect public safety.

However the Australian Vaccination Skeptics Network contends the documentary "is not anti-vaccination" but is rather an investigation into an alleged cover-up by the US Centre of Disease control.

The event website states due to "well-orchestrated threats of violence and abuse that come from the pro-censorship community" ticket holders will be sent location details two hours beforehand.

Mr Wakefield will field questions from the crowd in a live Skype session after the screening set to be held on Monday, July 31.
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Screening at a secret location? What's the point?
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It's Cult Building 101:

The organisers will let all their supporters know at the last minute, and the "team activity" of the local anti-vaxers all getting to the "secret location", and being fed with the film's propaganda, will be highly reinforcing.

Also, protesters are likely to find out at the last minute, but have lesser time to pressure the venue. They're still attend and protest (albeit in lesser numbers), which is also likely to reinforce the 'them'/'us' dynamic felt by the watchers of the film.
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Ooh, ooh, want to see something really ridiculous? Of course your do;


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"I think any debate deserves equal weighting irrespective of the topic, within reason, I guess."

He claims he doesn't support the anti-vaxxers, but he wants to give them equal time on the ABC!


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He might disagree with anti-vaxxers but One Nation senator Brian Burston thinks the ABC should give them equal airtime.

Have you ever heard anything more ridiculous, naturally there are limits, like anything he thinks is rubbish, like the flat earth, astrology, all these things probably don't deserve equal time, but anti-vaxxers do?


No Senator, you give equal time to equally valid positions, and the validity of a position is determined by whether it's supported by evidence. So two scientific theories explaining a phenomena, both of which explain all the facts, can be given equal time until one of them is disproven, at which point you just stop giving time to the disproven one, you don't just keep giving it equal time.


http://www.news.com.au/national/brea...c13a3516f47868


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"I think they are entitled to their view and perspective as well and what they see as perhaps some immunisation of children not being appropriate," he said.


"I don't share that view but I think they're entitled to express that view."

Yes they are entitled to have their view, and they are entitled to express their view, but we are not required to give them a platform, we are entitled to not listen, not host, not aid them in advancing their view.


They are entitled to their own view, but they are not entitled to their own facts, if they are disseminating falsehoods the appropriate thing to do is to tell them to go away. Of course he gets his idea of what is balanced reporting from a good source;


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Senator Burston cited Fox News of the US as a good example of a balanced broadcaster, which he said had left and right commentators appearing together.

The man is spouting complete nonsense!
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He claims he doesn't support the anti-vaxxers, but he wants to give them equal time on the ABC!
I'd prefer he give equal time to astrologers or flat earthers. At least they're not putting childrens lives in danger.
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