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Old 15th November 2017, 08:25 PM
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Lewis made reference to the government representing the ideals of the majority - well, the majority has spoken.

Now as the resident forum fag, I'm off to plan a wedding.

BYOB booze. Lewis isn't invited because he's being a numpty.


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Lewis made reference to the government representing the ideals of the majority - well, the majority has spoken.

Now as the resident forum fag, I'm off to plan a wedding.

BYOB booze. Lewis isn't invited because he's being a numpty.
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Old 20th December 2017, 10:34 PM
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When Lewis gets back, I think there should be something to show he's been missed, so I leave this question.

Lewis, look at the red bits above. Many gay men earn well, and pay tax accordingly. Their taxes will have been contributing to education and other children's services.

Yep, your four kids were also raised by the Pink Dollar.

Now, as to the claim that gay men cost the country millions of dollars: can you provide a source for this? If you can, how does this compare to smokers, for example?

You've got to prove your arguments, Lewis, or they look like mindless hate speech.
We all pay tax not just your poofy mates and plenty of my "blue" dollars go to supporting mental health , drug addiction and sexually transmitted diseases that are more prevalent in gay communities.
Its also a fact that the highest earners pay less tax as a percentage and gay men are well over represented in the highest income brackets.
The education system is for the greater benefit of the whole country. Queers will reap the reward of well educated employees as much as straight people , yet contribute fuck all (other than compulsory taxes) towards raising this next generation.
The millions I referenced was the cost of the farcical and unnecessary plebiscite. I haven't seen any current affairs programs on the taxpayer funded ABC , or the other purveyors of fake news on the free to air networks advocating "say yes to smoking , its a human right".
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When Lewis gets back, I think there should be something to show he's been missed, so I leave this question.

Lewis, look at the red bits above. Many gay men earn well, and pay tax accordingly. Their taxes will have been contributing to education and other children's services.

Yep, your four kids were also raised by the Pink Dollar.

Now, as to the claim that gay men cost the country millions of dollars: can you provide a source for this? If you can, how does this compare to smokers, for example?

You've got to prove your arguments, Lewis, or they look like mindless hate speech.
We all pay tax not just your poofy mates and plenty of my "blue" dollars go to supporting mental health , drug addiction and sexually transmitted diseases that are more prevalent in gay communities.
Its also a fact that the highest earners pay less tax as a percentage and gay men are well over represented in the highest income brackets.
The education system is for the greater benefit of the whole country. Queers will reap the reward of well educated employees as much as straight people , yet contribute fuck all (other than compulsory taxes) towards raising this next generation.
The millions I referenced was the cost of the farcical and unnecessary plebiscite. I haven't seen any current affairs programs on the taxpayer funded ABC , or the other purveyors of fake news on the free to air networks advocating "say yes to smoking , its a human right".

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And you can have a nice little holiday for this. Your sexuality based slurs are not acceptable here. Change your attitude or you will be permanently removed.
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When Lewis gets back, I think there should be something to show he's been missed, so I leave this question.

Lewis, look at the red bits above. Many gay men earn well, and pay tax accordingly. Their taxes will have been contributing to education and other children's services.

Yep, your four kids were also raised by the Pink Dollar.

Now, as to the claim that gay men cost the country millions of dollars: can you provide a source for this? If you can, how does this compare to smokers, for example?

You've got to prove your arguments, Lewis, or they look like mindless hate speech.
We all pay tax not just your poofy mates and plenty of my "blue" dollars go to supporting mental health , drug addiction and sexually transmitted diseases that are more prevalent in gay communities.
Its also a fact that the highest earners pay less tax as a percentage and gay men are well over represented in the highest income brackets.
The education system is for the greater benefit of the whole country. Queers will reap the reward of well educated employees as much as straight people , yet contribute fuck all (other than compulsory taxes) towards raising this next generation.
The millions I referenced was the cost of the farcical and unnecessary plebiscite. I haven't seen any current affairs programs on the taxpayer funded ABC , or the other purveyors of fake news on the free to air networks advocating "say yes to smoking , its a human right".
Still no proof among your invective, Lewis. That's a shame, as you so obviously want to be convincing.

Funny thing about my friends, Lewis. I don't judge any of them. Matter of fact, the only time sexuality is a concern to me is if somebody's being discriminated against.

I'm in my current relationship for its 15th straight year now, and we may even get round to marrying soon.

Your "facts" seem to be bluster (no sources) and your Donald-like bleats of "fake news" only conjure up images of a vain man in orange pancake makeup and a FABULOUS poodly hairdo, waving his tiny hands about.

I will also award points for comparing apples to oranges. You clearly have little idea about the recent plebsicite's machinery (BTW, your blokey mate Abbott - the one with the speedos - set the plebiscite in motion) and subsequent passage of bills through both Houses of Parliament (which makes it legal, in an Australian sense, as the laws you seem to like seeing applied to refugees).

BTW, you might be surprised how many parents, teachers, lecturers, mentors, role models and other positive contributors to the learning and growth of Generation Next, are other-than-heterosexual.

Perhaps if you sat down with a G&T, and waited for the tizz to pass, we could chat...
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I just tuned into the Lewis part of this conversation. The quote "you keep using that word; I don't think it means what you think it means" springs to mind.




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Its also a fact that the highest earners pay less tax as a percentage


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I'd be very interested to see the stats on this claim, relevant to the issue. The very, very highest earners manage to reduce their tax handily but in general the more one earns the more one pays in proportional and absolute terms [edit: even if more tax might be extracted still].




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which plebiscite was originally advanced - and all that money spent - as a way of stopping SSM.


What can one say in the face of someone trying to argue their homophobic points who doesn't even get this basic and fundamental fact about recent events?
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I'd be very interested to see the stats on this claim, relevant to the issue. The very, very highest earners manage to reduce their tax handily but in general the more one earns the more one pays in proportional and absolute terms [edit: even if more tax might be extracted still].
And... the facts back you and sadly leave Lewis once more mouthing off without the facts on his side.

https://theconversation.com/factchec...pulation-45229
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We all pay tax not just your poofy mates and plenty of my "blue" dollars go to supporting mental health , drug addiction and sexually transmitted diseases that are more prevalent in gay communities.
So depression, drug dependance and careless casual sex (see depression) are more prevalent in gay communities. Well gee, I wonder why?


Why don't you actually make a positive contribution to the forum instead of spouting ignorant, hateful fuckwittery?
You can seriously fuck off now.
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We all pay tax not just your poofy mates and plenty of my "blue" dollars go to supporting mental health , drug addiction and sexually transmitted diseases that are more prevalent in gay communities.
So depression, drug dependance and careless casual sex (see depression) are more prevalent in gay communities. Well gee, I wonder why?


Why don't you actually make a positive contribution to the forum instead of spouting ignorant, hateful fuckwittery?
You can seriously fuck off now.
I'd really like to think he could learn a few things.

If Lewis has been able to ditch one load of senseless beliefs, a few more isn't necessarily out of the question.
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I'd really like to think he could learn a few things.

If Lewis has been able to ditch one load of senseless beliefs, a few more isn't necessarily out of the question.
I agree although, Joseph Stalin probably wouldn't. I guess if one simply replaces theism with the god of complete intellectual liberty whereby anything that is thought is correct regardless of all contrary evidence (the orange idiot springs to mind) then it'll be tricky getting past base emotional prejudice. But you never know.
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