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Old 9th November 2017, 02:04 PM
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... So the Gop get a clobbering in Virginia and New Jersey and Dems win various mayoral elections across the US. It's good news and reading about it just now has come as something of a tonic ...
Although I'd read Nate Silver's cautions about media commentary I've linked upthread, nevertheless, here's a little more of that tonic for you! -

Suburbs Rebel Against Trump, Threatening Republicans in Congress

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... The American suburbs appear to be in revolt against President Trump after a muscular coalition of college-educated voters and racial and ethnic minorities dealt the Republican Party a thumping rejection on Tuesday and propelled a diverse class of Democrats into office.

From the tax-obsessed suburbs of New York City to high-tech neighborhoods outside Seattle to the sprawling, polyglot developments of Fairfax and Prince William County, Va., voters shunned Republicans up and down the ballot ... Leaders in both parties said the elections were an unmistakable alarm bell for Republicans ahead of the 2018 campaign, when the party’s grip on the House of Representatives may hinge on the socially moderate, multiethnic communities near major cities.

“Voters are taking their anger out at the president, and the only way they can do that is by going after Republicans on the ballot,” said Representative Charlie Dent, Republican of Pennsylvania.

The Democrats’ gains signaled deep alienation from the Republican Party among the sort of upscale moderates who were once central to their coalition.

Democrats not only swept Virginia’s statewide races but neared a majority in the House of Delegates, a legislative chamber that was gerrymandered to make the Republican majority virtually unassailable. They seized county executive offices in Westchester and Nassau Counties, N.Y., and carried bellwether mayoral elections in St. Petersburg, Fla., and Manchester, N.H., all races that appeared to favor Republicans only months ago.

In Washington State, Democrats won a special election to take control of the State Senate, establishing total Democratic dominance of government on the West Coast. Democrats took council seats in vote-rich Delaware County, Pa., in the Philadelphia suburbs, a perennial congressional battleground.

Even in the Deep South, Georgia Democrats captured two State House seats where they previously had not even fielded candidates while snatching a State Senate seat in Buckhead, an upscale area of Atlanta.

“Republicans are being obliterated in the suburbs,”
said Chris Vance, a former chairman of the Washington State Republican Party, who placed the blame squarely on Mr. Trump. “Among college-educated suburbanites, he is a pariah.”

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‘Canary in the coal mine’: Republicans fear Democratic wins mean more losses to come

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A wave of Democratic victories ignited a ferocious debate across the Republican Party on Wednesday over whether President Trump’s unorthodox behavior and polarizing agenda is jeopardizing the GOP’s firm grip on power in Congress, governors’ mansions and state legislatures.

The recriminations sparked by Tuesday’s results — a decisive rebuke of Trump and his policies in Virginia and elsewhere — threatened the fragile GOP push to pass sweeping tax cuts by the end of the year and raised deeper questions about Republican identity and fealty to a historically unpopular president.

A year ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, Republicans are increasingly uncertain about keeping their majorities on Capitol Hill and are worried about how damaging Trump’s jagged brand of politics may become to the party.

“Donald Trump is an anchor for the GOP,” said veteran party strategist Mike Murphy, a Trump critic. “We got that message in loud volume in Virginia. The canary in the coal mine didn’t just pass out; its head exploded.”

The unease was palpable among vulnerable lawmakers …

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) said Tuesday’s contests were a lesson to Republicans that catering to the party’s conservative base with hard-line appeals and incendiary language turns off the moderate voters they need to win in states like his own. He said his party must choose between a political message of “blaming and scapegoating” or a more hopeful pitch centered around everyday issues such as health care and the economy.

“This is a repudiation of the politics of narrow,” Kasich said. In an apparent reference to Trump’s 2016 victory, the governor added, “The politics of anger may work for a moment in time, but it does not last, thank goodness.”

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For now, enjoy, drink deep from that tonic

Then read Silver ...
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Old 9th November 2017, 03:43 PM
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This one is tonic, too. From the New York Times:

Message to Mr. Trump: We’re Better Than That.
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD


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... From Washington to Maine, New Jersey to North Carolina, Trumpist ugliness was met and vanquished, sometimes by the very targets of right-wing scorn.

In January, a local New Jersey Republican politician, John Carman, mocked the anti-Trump Women’s March by asking on Facebook whether the protest would be “over in time for them to cook dinner.” That so upset Ashley Bennett, a 32-year-old health care worker, that she challenged Mr. Carman for his seat ... “Elected officials shouldn’t be on social media mocking and belittling people who are expressing their concerns about their community and the nation,” she said during her campaign. If Mr. Carman does it again, it will be as a private citizen. Ms. Bennett defeated him on Tuesday.

In Hoboken, N.J., Ravi Bhalla became the state’s first Sikh mayor by triumphing over an ethnic smear campaign using fliers with his turbaned image and the message, “Don’t let TERRORISM take over our town!”



Tuesday was the strongest sign yet that the politics of division can be rejected. Both parties could take a lesson from Danica Roem, a transgender woman who ran for the Virginia House of Delegates. She campaigned on issues like traffic congestion, but she unseated Bob Marshall, the self-described “chief homophobe” who sponsored the state’s transgender bathroom bill. Mr. Marshall refused to debate Ms. Roem or refer to her as female and ran attack ads accusing her of lewd behavior. After she won, Ms. Roem said: “I don’t attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.”

What welcome inclusiveness at a time when the president stews in a hate-filled bubble, appealing only to the shrinking fraction of Americans unrepulsed by his behavior.

“We live in a very diverse society,” Mr. Northam reminded us after his victory. “It is getting more diverse every day. It is that diverse society that makes this country great.”
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My latest inbox item from the Washington Post

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Our updated tally of President Trump’s false/misleading claims: 1,628 claims in 298 days
As regular readers know, the president has a tendency to repeat himself — often. But for some reason, our year-long project analyzing, categorizing and tracking every false or misleading claim by President Trump had seemed like quite a burden in the past month. Well, the numbers are in and now we know why: In the past 35 days, Trump has averaged an astonishing nine claims a day.
We started this database because the pace and volume of the president’s misstatements means that we cannot possibly keep up. Readers can use the interactive database to quickly search a claim after they hear it, since there’s a good chance he’s said it before.
There are now at least 50 claims that he has repeated three or more times. The president’s claim that “Obamacare is failing” continues to top the list (the Congressional Budget Office found Obamacare exchanges are expected to remain stable for the foreseeable future) followed by his habit of taking credit for business decisions he didn’t make. Two claims about taxes are on the rise: that the tax plan will be the biggest tax cut in U.S. history and that the United States is one of the highest-taxed nations (both false).
Ten months in, the president’s tally stands at 1,628 false or misleading claims through Nov. 13. That’s an average of 5.5. claims a day and puts him on track to reach 1,999 claims by the end of his first year in office, though he obviously would easily exceed 2,000 if he maintained the pace of the past month.
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We maintain the database by closely reading or watching Trump’s myriad public appearances and television and radio interviews. The interviews are especially hard to keep up with, in part because the White House does not routinely post on them on its website. Moreover, Trump tends to seek out right-leaning interviewers who rarely challenge him or question him when he repeats false claims that have already been fact-checked. The interviews thus often contain a torrent of misleading claims, and we despair that supposed journalists are not confronting the president about his rhetoric.
So we were amused to see a foreign leader fact-check the president on his Asian trip. On Nov. 13, Trump met with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe when he started to repeat one of his favorite false claims that the United States has “deficits with almost everybody.”
“Except us,” interjected Turnbull.
“Except with you,” Trump agreed, adding: “You’re the only one.” He then suggested he should check the figures, but Turnbull assured him, “It’s real.”
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Old 19th November 2017, 04:34 PM
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Washington (CNN)The top US nuclear commander said Saturday he would push back against an order from President Donald Trump for a nuclear strike if it were "illegal."

Speaking at the Halifax International Security Forum in Nova Scotia, Canada, Gen. John Hyten, who is the commander of US Strategic Command, shared what would happen if he were ordered to launch a nuclear strike.

"I provide advice to the President," Hyten said. "He'll tell me what to do, and if it's illegal, guess what's going to happen? I'm gonna say, 'Mr. President, that's illegal.' Guess what he's going to do? He's going to say, 'What would be legal?' And we'll come up with options of a mix of capabilities to respond to whatever the situation is, and that's the way it works. It's not that complicated."
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At the Senate hearing this week, experts testified that the use of nuclear weapons must be proportional to a threat, and the Pentagon has extensive options for use of conventional weapons against North Korea.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/18/po...ump/index.html

It's still a bit greyish, but better than nothing.

This is good news.

What is damning is that they have to talk about this stuff because the president is so unstable. That in itself says a lot.
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Trump in a dog's ear. It's a fucking miracle i tell ya! Checkmate liberals.
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