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Community Versus Society in Europe

By Kenan Malik

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Thirty years ago, many Europeans saw multiculturalism—the embrace of an inclusive, diverse society—as an answer to Europe’s social problems. Today, a growing number consider it to be a cause of them. That perception has led some mainstream politicians, including British Prime Minister David Cameron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, to publicly denounce multiculturalism and speak out against its dangers. It has fueled the success of far-right parties and populist politicians across Europe, from the Party for Freedom in the Netherlands to the National Front in France. And in the most extreme cases, it has inspired obscene acts of violence, such as Anders Behring Breivik’s homicidal rampage on the Norwegian island of Utoya in July 2011.
Europe built its wealth on plundered lands and plundered human beings for well over 5 centuries. Well over twnety in reality.
They still keep the wall up to keep the Africans out, by and large.
We are a microcosm of that and bring that history to Australia where it continues to play out with vigilante killings of Aborigines such as the killing of child Elijah Doughty.
Then we have the audacity to say that mutliculturalism is a failure. Fuck me dead we haven't even tried it.
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Perhaps multiculturalism doesn't always work because multi-religion-ism never works? Individuals from different cultures seem to get on just fine, until the religious divide rears it ugly god-head. Seems that way to me.
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Perhaps multiculturalism doesn't always work because multi-religion-ism never works? Individuals from different cultures seem to get on just fine, until the religious divide rears it ugly god-head. Seems that way to me.
Commerce and culture have done their share of buggering things up, often long before the missionaries arrive.

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It's always been that resistance is futile, and one must assimilate, Pup.
Doesn't make it right though. Regulation of society should be as inclusive and tolerant as possible IMHO. Society should be about association, rather than assimilation, with obvious exception like compulsory vaccination, proper accreditation of schools, doctors, etc. In any society there has to be many things we all agree on, be that safe food practices, consistent road rules, etc, etc.

But there is a lot of shit that we don't need to have, that just pisses folks off. Forcing religion on people, [especially the vulnerable], making people stop using their own language [cultural genocide], and the like.

In Europe nearly everyone is at least bilingual, and it is scientifically demonstrated that second languages boost cognition and brain function. So indigenous languages should never have to die, but they have. All over the world.
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Doesn't make it right though.
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No, I in no way intended to convey that I thought it was right.

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My fault, I should have picked it up. Tired, but relaxing looking at the forum, in my "intellectual underwear", as it were.
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