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Old 24th May 2017, 07:25 PM
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I'm probably overlooking the bigger picture here but Trump is really pushing literary artistic license just too far, for my tolerance, with his random use of capital letters.

The only reassuring thing is that he can actually write words, sometimes you wonder. Also, no spelling mistakes. He ought to get a little gold star for that.

Well technically he spelt honour wrong, but since all Americans spell that wrong we can probably let it go.






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Old 24th May 2017, 10:11 PM
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In the court proceedings determined to substantively establish Trump's unarguable culpability in selling America up the river, the case will be made and to be generous to the fucker, plausibly made, for diminished responsibility, with the aim being the useless uncomprehending yet evil bastard doesn't do time.


Mike Pence just may graciously grant his unhorsed leader the executive pardon. Neutral Pence has been patiently biding his time like a praying mantis.
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Old 25th May 2017, 10:37 PM
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Bah. Deleted coz twatter makes it too hard to repost stuff.
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In Mexico, it will soon be possible to get a frank critique of the US President down on paper at your own convenience, or someone else's.


Better yet, 30% of the profits go towards helping migrants.

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Old 26th May 2017, 07:51 AM
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Trump shoves Montenegro PM to get to the front of the pack. Something weirdly compelling about the moment. It kind of sums things up in a few seconds.

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Old 26th May 2017, 08:23 AM
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The newspaper article is pretty devastating about the iniquities inflicted by Kushner on the landless
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/23/m...pire.html?_r=0

He describes Kushner as a predator (well his company at least) and the tenants as his prey.

I listened to the author on Late Night Live last night.
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The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit has dismissed the Trump Administration's latest attempt to reinstate its second executive order concerning refugees from certain majority-muslim countries.

The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit sits in Richmond, Virginia. It has jurisdiction over federal appeals from Virginia, West Virginia, North and South Carolina and Maryland.

The Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit treated this as a most significant case. All US Courts of Appeal must be constituted by a bench of three appeal judges, and it is not usual for them to sit with more than that number, except in significant cases. Given the controversial nature of this case, and the fact that the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit (which sits in California, and has jurisdiction over federal appeals from California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Hawaii, Guam, Idaho, Montana, Nevada) has previously dismissed an appeal concerning the first executive order (see discussion upthread), the Fourth Circuit sat a rare, full bench consisting of thirteen of its judges.

The full opinion of the Court is here.

The Washington Post report is here. According to The Post's summary:

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The broad, decisive ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit means the Trump administration still cannot enforce its travel order that the government says is urgently needed for national security.

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In a 10-to-3 decision, the Richmond-based court said the president’s power to deny entry into the United States is not absolute and sided with challengers, finding that the travel ban “in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination.”

The president’s authority, the court said, “cannot go unchecked when, as here, the president wields it through an executive edict that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation,” according to the majority opinion written by Chief Judge Roger L. Gregory and joined in part by nine colleagues.

The 4th Circuit order leaves in place a nationwide injunction issued in March by U.S. District Judge Theodore D. Chuang in Maryland, who sided with opponents in finding that the ban violates the Constitution by intentionally discriminating against Muslims ...



In its opinion Thursday, the court said, “plaintiffs point to ample evidence that national security is not the true reason” for the order, “including, among other things, then-candidate Trump’s numerous campaign statements expressing animus towards the Islamic faith” and his proposal as a candidate to ban Muslims from entering the United States.

A key issue for the court was whether to consider the president’s political statements and whether the order violates the establishment clause of the First Amendment that specifically prohibits the government from denigrating a particular religion. The travel order itself makes no mention of religion or Muslims.

The majority opinion recounts in detail Trump’s statements, and it quotes extensively from his tweets, media interviews and comments made by his supporters and advisers, including White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

“Laid bare, this executive order is no more than what the president promised before and after his election: naked invidious discrimination against Muslims,” Judge James A. Wynn Jr. wrote in a concurring opinion.

Judge Stephanie D. Thacker also sided with the majority but said the court could reach the same conclusion without relying on Trump’s comments before he became president.
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All of the judges in the majority were nominated to the court by Democratic presidents, and the three dissenting judges — Paul V. Niemeyer, Dennis W. Shedd and G. Steven Agee — were nominated to the bench by Republican presidents
That may raise an appearance in some quarters that the decision was a party-political one, somewhat unlike the decisions in the Ninth Circuit, where judges appointed by Republican administrations have sided with those appointed by Democratic administrations.

It seems that the administration is now heading to the Supreme Court, according to The Post's report:

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions vowed to appeal to the Supreme Court.
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Via UK's Freethinker: The Trump Effect: religious fervour engulfs armed forces

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The Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), headed by Michael ‘Mikey’ Weinstein, above, is alleging that Donald Trump’s presidency has led to such a steep rise in fundamentalist Christian evangelising and religious bigotry in the US armed forces that the matter is reaching the level of a ‘national security threat’.

According to this Newsweek report, the number of complaints from servicemen and women in the Army, Air Force, Marines and other service branches to the MRFF has doubled in number since November 2016.

Many of the recent charges are coming from members of minority religions, including Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims, and from atheists. Among the complaints: military family and marital therapy programmes are being infused with Protestant Christianity in violation of the Constitution; open anti-Semitism; anti-LGBT statements, posters, symbols and bullying; openly anti-Muslim rhetoric and Islamophobic attacks; a rise in on-base evangelising; and increased pressure on recruits or lower-level personnel and service members to convert to fundamentalist Christianity.
More at source. Scary stuff indeed.
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Dominion theology is well established in the US military, it seems, and probably has been for a long time. Can you imagine what a Pence presidency could do for it?

Still, i'd take Pence in exchange for a Trump impeachment...but only just.
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