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Old 9th April 2017, 03:32 PM
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Default Should the ABC Religion and Ethics website be closed?

The Website in Question
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/

Does anyone actually read it?

I was just reading this from The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...share_btn_link

And I have heard a few people comment that it seems to be a waste of ABC money.
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Old 9th April 2017, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Should the ABC Religion and Ethics website be closed?

Maybe they should simply rename it to reflect the majority of the actual content and apparent purpose: ABC Apologetics.

Then we'll see how well it gets on.
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Old 9th April 2017, 05:01 PM
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I'm curious about the moderation policies. It's an opaque process so you never know which comments fail to get through for technical reasons. If they are received, you never know why some are published and some are not.

Certainly the selection of articles is unbalanced. Usually the only articles by atheists are ones highlighting conflict between atheists, or atheists criticising other atheists. Occasionally Alain de Botton will be allowed to say something innoccuous. Russel Blackford's last contribution was part of a debate with a theist, so it didn't shift the balance back.

Depending on how you count the census numbers, the unreligious are Australia's biggest "denomination" (you have to add in "Jedi" and "not answered" to beat the major Christian brands). One could construct an argument that the ABC Religion and Ethics web site does not adhere to the ABC Charter.

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Hmmm... hope they get around to letting your comment through, Stubby.

A conga-line of non-sequiturs at the end of that op-ed, methinks.
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Oh dear. I see the site's resident creationist and Defender of the Faith by Failed Logic (Joel) has already chimed in.

On another topic in that forum, anyone care to tell me how I've been doing in this thread?
Scott has round filed several of my replies. As per usual.
Going by these, and many similar posts on these forums, I say it would be a bloody good idea if the site was OPENED, especially the comments section.
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Old 11th April 2017, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Should the ABC Religion and Ethics website be closed?

1. Leave it running.
2. Let them keep publishing the apologetic nonsense they keep publishing.
3. Re-open the comments so the apologists can be openly critiqued.
4. More people will be likely to see through the crap.
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1. Leave it running.
2. Let them keep publishing the apologetic nonsense they keep publishing.
3. Re-open the comments so the apologists can be openly critiqued.
4. More people will be likely to see through the crap.
Yes, but IMO, the argument about balance / compliance with the ABC Charter ought be pursued.
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Yes, but IMO, the argument about balance / compliance with the ABC Charter ought be pursued.
But the thing is that religion is crazy addictive shit that should be confined to the fiction genre and marked "adults only".

balance, in term is religion, means giving equal time [at least] to atheist, agnostic and secular POVs AND doing comparative religion. Or rather comparative theology, since every religion can debunk every other until they all go puff up in smoke and disappear.
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Old 11th April 2017, 05:26 PM
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1. Leave it running.
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3. Re-open the comments so the apologists can be openly critiqued.
4. More people will be likely to see through the crap.
The ABC RE site went to shite when comments were turned off.
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I used to make the odd comment there, before I lost interest, then they axed the comments. The problem with comments from the ABC's point of view is that if you don't moderate them, you are liable if someone comes on and unleashes some illegal incitement to terrorism or hate speech or death threat or something. But if there are loads of comments it's time consuming and therefore expensive in terms of staffing to filter the crap out. Budgets are always under pressure. The moderation was pretty bad when they had comments.

The editor of the site Scott Stephens is some sort of cleric, the whole site is pretty stupid IMO, normal people just aren't interested in that sort of religious pinheadedness. Even if you discuss how many angels fit on said pinhead.
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The editor of the site Scott Stephens is some sort of cleric,
Scott Stephens is the religion and ethics editor for ABC Online. He is the editor/translator of the selected writings of the philosopher Slavoj Zizek, and is currently working on books with theologian John Milbank and literary critic James Wood. He is a regular commentator on ABC Radio National and ABC TV.

Before joining the ABC in 2010, Scott Stephens taught theology and ethics for many years. He also trained for the priesthood and served for several years as a lay parish minister in the Uniting Church.

A writer for ABC Online, Eureka Street, the Times Literary Supplement and a number of academic journals, Scott also edited and translated (with Rex Butler) the bestselling two volumes of selected writings of Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek.

He is currently working on a book with theologian John Milbank on theology and civil society, and with New Yorker literary critic James Wood on a book on literature and the presence/absence of God.

https://www.wheelercentre.com/people/scott-stephens
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I used to make the odd comment there, before I lost interest, then they axed the comments. The problem with comments from the ABC's point of view is that if you don't moderate them, you are liable if someone comes on and unleashes some illegal incitement to terrorism or hate speech or death threat or something. But if there are loads of comments it's time consuming and therefore expensive in terms of staffing to filter the crap out. Budgets are always under pressure. The moderation was pretty bad when they had comments.

The editor of the site Scott Stephens is some sort of cleric, the whole site is pretty stupid IMO, normal people just aren't interested in that sort of religious pinheadedness. Even if you discuss how many angels fit on said pinhead.
The moderation was pretty hit and miss. I suspected there was 3 moderators when I used to comment there. One who was pretty chill and let most things through. One who was pretty tight on anything not supportive of a religious pov and one very mean moderator who loved the RCC.
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