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Old 24th July 2017, 08:06 PM
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Someone, Stylo, not you.

FFS, I was continuing, punnishly, with figures of speech which could be misinterpreted.
Didn't I get those right?
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Old 24th July 2017, 08:29 PM
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@KiP: I wasn't pointing at anyone, I was doing some wordplay.

Here's the origins:
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Old 24th July 2017, 08:36 PM
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@KiP: I wasn't pointing at anyone, I was doing some wordplay.

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Yes, I know, I thought maybe I had them wrong. Don't worry, I'm just being an idiot
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and now for something completely different

Leftwing Breitbart? Chapo Trap House is strong new voice in resistance to Trump

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...wing-breitbart
Thanks Stub King. I read the Guardian article and also the link within to the Frankfurt School with interest. More power to Chapo Trap House.

That link goes to The Headquaters of Neo-Maxism, Samuel Freedman in The New York Review of Books, March 2017 issue, reviewing three books on leading lights of the Frankfurt School.

The last paragraph,

'Recent developments suggest, however, that the Frankfurt School’s critique may have a new timeliness. The recent presidential election used authoritarian tactics of misrepresentation and manipulation of belief addressed to people who were particularly susceptible to such methods; it resulted in the near-complete victory of a political party that now combines a libertarian program of the privatization (if not elimination) of many public functions and dominance by concentrated capitalist wealth; and it put into office a president who is deliberately divisive and has authoritarian inclinations, no apparent respect for truth or for democratic institutions, and little comprehension of or concern for the public good. However distant the Frankfurt School’s indictment of capitalism’s alliance with authoritarianism once seemed, its criticisms are not irrelevant now as we face increasing nativism, unthinking trust in a demagogue and in economic power, as well as antipathy to science and reasoned argument, and eagerness to embrace a regime of disinformation and manipulation.'

It seems the Frankfurt School failed to identify atheism as a tool for thinking, feminism and the imperative on challenging patriarchy, and also sexuality and prejudice, but I don't really know that.

The full article. This is informative on leftist analysis, much of which I agree with, not their highbrow dogma against proletarian music, although I share their contempt for the strictly commercial, as did Frank Zappa.

The full article. This is informative on leftist analysis. Recommended.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017...s-neo-marxism/
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Thanks Stub King.
you are most welcome

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'Recent developments suggest, however, that the Frankfurt School’s critique may have a new timeliness. The recent presidential election used authoritarian tactics of misrepresentation and manipulation of belief addressed to people who were particularly susceptible to such methods;
granted that I have not read the article, but an intro like this automatically raises flags, indicating to me an ideological bias. "misrepresentation and manipulation of belief" have been part of politics since politics was invented and is hardly an attribute of [EDIT: just ] authoritarianism.

I was listening to Sam Harris' podcast with Yuval Noah Harari recently ...

Harris: so in this age of post truth ...
Harari: well, if this is the age of post truth, tell me when the age of truth was

"misrepresentation and manipulation of belief" aka spin, is the standard MO of anyone trying to sell you something, whether it is an idea or a product.

it is true that the content was authoritarian and more so that the tactics were: attacking the press, undermining the judiciary, inciting xenophobia, questioning govt agencies, etc. But to say that the mere use of spin is authoritarian is drawing a long bow IMHO.
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To My Fellow Plutocrats: You Can Cure Trumpism

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...rumpism-215347


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Since Election Day, I’ve been overwhelmed by anguished calls, emails and conversations from you, my wealthy friends, who, for the first time, are confronting the real possibility that our cozy utopian, urban, pluralistic lifestyles may be in peril. I share your fear. And with good reason.
Three years ago, in these pages, I warned you that the pitchforks were coming. I argued that 30 years of rising and accelerating inequality would inevitably lead to some sort of populist revolt that would disrupt the fantastic lives we elites enjoy. I cautioned that any society which allows itself to become radically and indefensibly unequal eventually faces either an uprising or a police state—or both.



And here we are.
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Personally I don't know how he has lasted this long, probably because the Republicans see no alternative, however the pressure keeps piling up, eventually even they will get tired of it, the circus that is, and fire the chief clown!

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His latest Twitter onslaught comes amid reports the president is consulting advisers about possibly firing the country's top prosecutor.
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The Washington Post reports that Mr Trump has asked an adviser how firing Mr Sessions would be received in the conservative media.
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Anthony Scaramucci, the president's new communications director, fanned speculation on Tuesday that the attorney general's days could be numbered.


Conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt put it to Mr Scaramucci that it was pretty clear Mr Trump wants Mr Sessions gone.


"If there's this level of tension in the relationship that's public, you're probably right," Mr Scaramucci said.
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New York Times White House correspondent Maggie Haberman tweeted that she had asked two people close to Mr Trump why he is tormenting Mr Sessions instead of firing him.



She said they told her: "Because he can."
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It was reported on Monday that the president was considering replacing Mr Sessions with former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.


But Mr Giuliani told CNN on Monday that Mr Sessions had "made the right decision under the rules of the Justice Department" in ecusing himself from the inquiry.
Seriously only an idiot would take that job following the firing of Sessions. It could only possibly be taken in the implicit understanding that you had to to everything the president told you to do. If he fires Sessions I think he will have trouble finding people qualified and willing to accept!

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If Mr Trump were to fire Mr Sessions, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein would take over the job on an acting basis.



Mr Trump has also been sharply critical of Mr Rosenstein for his handling of the Russia inquiry.


Some commentators suggest Mr Trump's ultimate target is Robert Mueller, the special counsel who is leading the Russia investigation.
Of course what Trump wants is for all investigations into him to stop, that's all.

Meanwhile he continues to attack and try to bring into doubt the reputation of people he thinks may not toe the presidential line;

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Meanwhile, Mr Trump also appeared to suggest on Tuesday morning that the acting director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, was corrupt.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40718076

Meanwhile, Mr Trump also appeared to suggest on Tuesday morning that the acting director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, was corrupt.
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